tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32776756.post7533147809955145826..comments2023-10-20T18:03:01.821+09:00Comments on GlobalTalk 21: Goth-Loli Girls, Massage Chairs, and a Gourmet Emporium: No It’s Not a Pasolini PasticheJun Okumurahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00291478225274759649noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32776756.post-84880500187314375982007-12-25T12:21:00.000+09:002007-12-25T12:21:00.000+09:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jun Okumurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00291478225274759649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32776756.post-42370655331902907792007-12-25T12:20:00.000+09:002007-12-25T12:20:00.000+09:00We post a lot, but none of us has done the kind of...We post a lot, but none of us has done the kind of thing that you did with that three-part piece. I agree with <I>Shisaku</I>, it should be published.Jun Okumurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00291478225274759649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32776756.post-17538364143598337552007-12-24T23:13:00.000+09:002007-12-24T23:13:00.000+09:00Jun, the next serious post (found some fun numbers...Jun, the next serious post (found some fun numbers about Japanese agriculture) will be whenever I have inspiration and some free time off work to look stuff up. Which, at the current rate, will be around 2020 or so...<BR/><BR/>Besides, you, Shisaku and Observing Japan is doing a way better job than me anyhow.Jan Morenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06834641501438709866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32776756.post-32240901259752285392007-12-24T21:09:00.000+09:002007-12-24T21:09:00.000+09:00clap clap clapclap clap clapJun Okumurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00291478225274759649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32776756.post-74897616754601490612007-12-24T18:40:00.000+09:002007-12-24T18:40:00.000+09:00Okumura-san:What is important is not the content b...Okumura-san:<BR/><BR/>What is important is not the content but the frame: for Blaine Harden, this was an epic piece of investigative journalism. It is, without a doubt, the best thing by him I have ever read. <BR/><BR/>We should congratulate him for trying so hard.MTChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04626942240117432624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32776756.post-7914396743525240972007-12-24T18:17:00.000+09:002007-12-24T18:17:00.000+09:00I had to look up Warhammer and I still don't under...I had to look up Warhammer and I still don't understand the reference to the New York subway. Dang, w.david, you make me feel old. I smell a Marxist plot.<BR/><BR/>Thank you, thank you.<BR/><I>*takes bow*</I><BR/><BR/>Seriously, I agree with Janne's initial assessment, that it's good enough as a blog post, nothing more. In Japan, we have the <I>sandai banashi</I>, a sit-down comedy, <I>rakugo</I> genre, where the <I>rakugoka</I> takes three items choice at random from the audience and forms them into a single comic routine on the spot. Stay tuned.<BR/><BR/>Speaking of which, Janne, when is the next Big One coming? We're waiting, you know.Jun Okumurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00291478225274759649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32776756.post-38190829925725215862007-12-24T17:16:00.000+09:002007-12-24T17:16:00.000+09:00Marx, to be fair, any place description has to foc...Marx, to be fair, any place description has to focus on what is different, not what is the same. If reports on Tokyo life - or London, Stockholm or Kuala Lumpur - focused on the existence of roads, trashcans and lots of people in business dress working in airconditioned offices every day, there would not be much point in writing anything.<BR/><BR/>And gothic lolitas are a rather visible feature of street life in the mostly trafficked areas of Tokyo. I'd expect any report on Osaka (even from Japanese media) to be somewhat heavy on Yakuza and perhaps on the "hosts" and assiciated people hanging around Doutonbori, few in number as they may actually be. They're visible and they're something well-known to exist here; it'd look strange to overlook it.<BR/><BR/>And if nothing else this may serve as a wakeup about media reportin in general. When you read articles about rioting in Paris (or street life in Paris for that matter); the vibrant club scene in London; immigrant alienation in Malmö; or whatever, just remember that you're reading the truth about those subjects in the exact same manner as you're reading about Tokyo life here.Jan Morenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06834641501438709866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32776756.post-38672654811604095652007-12-24T14:14:00.000+09:002007-12-24T14:14:00.000+09:00Trying to say the Goth-Loli girls - maybe 1000-250...Trying to say the Goth-Loli girls - maybe 1000-2500 people max out of 35 million? - represent Tokyo is like saying that the guys really into playing Warhammer with miniatures are a way into understanding the New York Metro area. And they are too lazy to even try to tie together the fundamentals of goth-loli gathering as a metaphor/extension/model/product of Japanese social principles/structures etc. This is just, "Hey, everyone loves goth-loli! Let's give it 100x the coverage it deserves!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32776756.post-55013488806991464222007-12-24T13:11:00.000+09:002007-12-24T13:11:00.000+09:00Janne:You right, in the sense that Goshikku-Rorïta...Janne:<BR/><BR/>You right, in the sense that <I>Goshikku-Rorïta</I>, i.e.Gothic-Lolita, is a less common but not unusal variant for this genre. I can't find any meaningful distinctions between the variations though.Jun Okumurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00291478225274759649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32776756.post-59613876754605904672007-12-24T10:58:00.000+09:002007-12-24T10:58:00.000+09:00I believe gothic lolita is actually technically co...I believe gothic lolita is actually technically correct, in the sense that it is the term used among goths for the distinct Japanese variant of the style - heavy on romanticism, light on grime and not really connected to the music genre any more.<BR/><BR/>Other than that, I agree with your take on the piece. It would make a passably interesting blog post, but doesn't have anything to contribute as an actual newspaper article.Jan Morenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06834641501438709866noreply@blogger.com